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 Post subject: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:07 pm 
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Anyone interested in making 100-200$ helping me replace my gasket/head/intake (& possibly motor mounts/EGR valve/heater core) *1990 Foxbody* I don't mind doing most of the wrench turning, im just looking for a knowledgeable buddy to oversee the work. I enjoy the mechanic aspect of fixing my own car, I'm just relatively new to this and don't want to screw anything up and cost myself more money. I'm located in the upper marlboro area & looking to dive into the repair work something around the Nov 20th. PM me if interested :confused2:
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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:11 am 
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Do you have you own tools, lift, etc..?

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:39 pm 
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Own tools; yes. A lift; no. To my understanding you can replace the heads w/o a lift but the motor mounts will definitely require one..
If the lift is a necessity I may just goto a "rent a car-bay by the hour" type deal

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:33 pm 
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5oh1990 wrote:
yes. A lift; no.

Bob has one and he likes to keep it in the air with mustangs need attention like head gasket replacement for example.

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:21 pm 
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so about this Bob..
Would he be open to helping me replace my heads (etc)?
If not, would he be open to lending his lift?
Where is he located??

Feel free to chime in Bob if you're out there
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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:35 am 
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5oh1990 wrote:
so about this Bob..
Would he be open to helping me replace my heads (etc)?
If not, would he be open to lending his lift?
Where is he located??

Feel free to chime in Bob if you're out there
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That would be me. I have a shop with a lift. Im kinda on the fence about letting someone do their own work in my shop for insurance reasons. Im considering it but dont want to have a car stuck there blocking things up. Are you coming to the meeting tonight?

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:05 am 
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Tell us about your project.

Are you upgrading the heads and intake?
Or are they coming off to fix the head gasket?

If these are upgrades, what head and intake combo are you installing?

Have these pieces been off the car in the last 5 years?

Most of the work is manageable by an average shade tree mechanic, but have you talked to anyone about replacing the heater core before? That is a big job. I know the service manual method is ugly, well time consuming. Maybe some hobbyists have found shortcuts. Please consult the Oracle Google, before proceedings with that repair.


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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:23 pm 
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Damn. I didn't know there was a meeting tonight but I'm working till late tonight, I wish I could.

Right now the project goal is to upgrade the heads while replacing the gasket, and upper & lower intakes w/ gt40 parts (hopefully w/ porting if I can scrape up the money for this TMoss I've heard a lot about) along w/ the explorer TB. heads will be the tfs/kpi high ports, I believe the headers I have will fit I was told the stock H pipe would have to be slightly modified to accommodate the .75in (iirc) raised exhaust ports on the heads.
None of it's been off in the past 5 years. I bought it stock about a year ago and have been enjoying fixing her up. don't plan to ever sell it so I'm determined to get everything out her

My Ford service manual CDs should be to me by Saturday. I believe I have all the tools I'll need though

I've read up on the heater core and it seems more time consuming than difficult. the starter/alt/solenoid fixing/replacing I've been so far wasn't too bad

Oh and yes, the google gods are ever generous in all foxbody endeavors :bows:

Thanks everyone for your responses :btu:

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:17 pm 
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Bob is a good egg and will do you right.

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:28 pm 
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5oh1990 wrote:
Damn. I didn't know there was a meeting tonight but I'm working till late tonight, I wish I could.

Right now the project goal is to upgrade the heads while replacing the gasket, and upper & lower intakes w/ gt40 parts (hopefully w/ porting if I can scrape up the money for this TMoss I've heard a lot about) along w/ the explorer TB. heads will be the tfs/kpi high ports, I believe the headers I have will fit I was told the stock H pipe would have to be slightly modified to accommodate the .75in (iirc) raised exhaust ports on the heads.
None of it's been off in the past 5 years. I bought it stock about a year ago and have been enjoying fixing her up. don't plan to ever sell it so I'm determined to get everything out her

My Ford service manual CDs should be to me by Saturday. I believe I have all the tools I'll need though

I've read up on the heater core and it seems more time consuming than difficult. the starter/alt/solenoid fixing/replacing I've been so far wasn't too bad

Oh and yes, the google gods are ever generous in all foxbody endeavors :bows:

Thanks everyone for your responses :btu:

Dundalk is a long way from Waldorf. Are you around Baltimore often?
The GT40 upper and lower are easy upgrade. I have a TMoss lower is it only helped by about 5-7HP. I would skip it.
The Explorer throttle body upgrade is bit more involved. I believe the cable cam needs to be changed so that the throttle pull it open correctly. (Of course I have a 95 5.0L, it is a slightly different setup. )

I have never used Hiport heads before. can you post links to how to mod the H pipe. I have onlt seen special exhaust to compensate for the hi Ports.

If this motor has not been disassembled recently, expect broke bolts. Since you don't need to reuse the E7 heads the biggest issue will be finding bolt replacements, opposed to using EZ Outs.

Don't forget that Ford recommends replacing the head bolt. They are To
You are dead on about the heater box. a lot of work. a lot of opportunity to break old brittle mounting tabs.

Remover that Ford recommends to replace, not reuse the head bolts. The are he torque to yield style bolt.

Are you keeping the air pump and EGR?

What rockers are you going to use on the TW Head? Does Trick Flow suggest using hardened pushrods? Does Trick flow suggested that the stock length pushrods might not be the correct pushrod when you change the head?

While Bob is a good egg, he makes money using his shop. I don't know if he has enough time to let you use his shop. How long to you think you need to do this work? Can you get the car to one of our shops in Baltimore or Wesminister?


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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:16 pm 
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I know it is 2 hours from Solomon's Island to Westminster.

Bob would say just R&R with a GT-40 and as I am not a man hours monster although it is about 4K too. Although he aims to please the customer.

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:58 am 
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I'm located in upper marlboro about 30min north of waldorf. Baltimore isn't too far of a trip (45ish min) but I'm guessing this would be an 4-6 hours project so time may become a concern.

I was planning to use the stock pushrods with the heads along with 1.6 rr. I've heard ppl have used these hi port heads w/ stock pistons/cam/block with no problems. Not sure what the springs are but the heads allegedly are coming off a running 331 turbo engine so I think they'll be okay for me

Is air pump the smog pump? bcuz I plan to belt bypass both the smog and ac. Also planning on keeping the EGR although I have historic plates so no emissions I believe, if it's too much of a hassle I can bypass that too.
I was already planning for new head bolts but thanks for the reminder, & thanks for the cable cam cable/throttle issue ill look into that.

Please update me on this Baltimore car bay possibility.. Even if a no, an update when be nice when time allows.

Once my car allows I may become a regular to these club meetings, would be great to learn all I can from everyone... maybe even some hand me down parts if I'm lucky? :confused2:

& I'll see what info I can find on the H pipe modification.. sounded easy when explained to me :confused3:

Thanks again for the responses :btu:

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:10 am 
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BobT and I both have service bays. He actually makes a living out of his and he is quick and knowledgeable. Bob's shop is in Westminster. I am in White Marsh/Perry Hall and my service bay is strictly a hobbyist shop. There might be others in the club with garages.

I am very slow I would plan on two days to do Heads, Intake, motor mounts and exhaust. But Bob is much faster. If you use RTV instead of gaskets under the lower intake, people suggest waiting overnight to have the RTV setup before starting the motor.


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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:47 pm 
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+1 on Bob, ive had him work on multiple cars of mine

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 Post subject: Re: Help replacing gasket/head/intake??
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:41 pm 
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@DrR when you say you run a hobbyist shop what exactly does that mean? in my head I'm picturing a more relaxed, less "I am a mechanic for a living" kinda deal... which actually sounds right up my alley.
In any case Baltimore & White Marsh are about equal distances (Baltimore is closer by a few minutes) from me so if either become an option that would b great

Why do some prefer not to use gaskets & solely RTV on the lower intake vs a gasket?? For my project I was planning to use a metal cored gasket.

Anything other snags or watchouts I should know about concerning gasket/head/intake replacing??

Thanks again everyone. maybe there's more ppl frequenting this forum than I thought. can't wait to goto an actual club function, see what my dues get me besides the sweet window sticker :btu: :usaflag:

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